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Alias_X · Dec 02, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Whats the difference between SDRAM, and DDR ?? I have SDRAM, and it is pretty expensive, I think more expensive than DDR, is it older? slower? Is it just as good?

Old Dood · Dec 02, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39

It is older and somewhat slower. It is more expensive because there is not the demand for it now. That and being older it will cost more. Go to crucial.com and they have a chart there that shows you the difference between PC100 Ram up to the latest Ram.

Alias_X · Dec 02, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Any sites/progz that will tell you how much upgrading your ram a certain amount will affect your computer?

lord_shar · Dec 02, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Alias_X

Whats the difference between SDRAM, and DDR ?? I have SDRAM, and it is pretty expensive, I think more expensive than DDR, is it older? slower? Is it just as good?

SDRAM = Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory. Reads/writes are performed once per memory bus clock cycle. Older memory standard.

DDR = Dual Data Rate. Type of memory that reads/writes to and from memory during the rising and falling edge of each bus clock cycle, effectively doubling the number of memory reads/writes without the extra heat normally associated with faster clock speeds.

Hope that made some sense...

YJ2k2 · Dec 02, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56

The full name for DDR RAM is DDR SDRAM. It's just SDRAM with twice the speed.

Alias_X · Dec 03, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33

I want to upgrade my computer, but can you take a motherboard out of a tower, and put it into a new tower case? I sort of want to get a new tower case and transfer my rig into it, but I don't want to have to get a new motherboard or processor.

lord_shar · Dec 03, 2005, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by Alias_X

I want to upgrade my computer, but can you take a motherboard out of a tower, and put it into a new tower case? I sort of want to get a new tower case and transfer my rig into it, but I don't want to have to get a new motherboard or processor.

It depends on your current desktop computer's motherboard standard. If it follows ATX form factor, then an ATX tower case should be able to accomodate the old board. However, you're better off getting a comletely new motherboard + CPU if your system is 2 or more years old.

Alias_X · Dec 03, 2005, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Ugh, so can you buy motherboards with processors, or do you have to buy seperately? Any deals that have a motherboard and processor for around, prefereably under $250 would be appreciated.

My comp has old ass slow ram, so I think that is probably best. I already updated hard drive, and graphics card, so just make sure the mohterboard has AGP slot if you can.

So basically, I want to know, waht can I take from my computer, and put into the new tower case. I don't want to keep my motherboard, nor ram. Can anyone tell me a list of things that I will be able to remove from this computer and put into the other one, that way I will know what stuff I will need to buy.

Alias_X · Dec 03, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

1 of the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128232
4 of the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820223009
1 of the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156175
1 of the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116171
$461.94

I would like to know if all of those are compatable, and if I should worry about any compatability issues with sound cards, or other things from my comp. Just as a heads up, my comp is over 4
years old.

If everything works out, if you can think of any cheaper items with just as much expandability, links are welcome.

Loviatar · Dec 03, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Alias_X

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I would like to know if all of those are compatable, and if I should worry about any compatability issues with sound cards, or other things from my comp. Just as a heads up, my comp is over 4
years old.

If everything works out, if you can think of any cheaper items with just as much expandability, links are welcome.

we dont know what processor you have for transfer.

check to make sure the MB will accept that processor.

Alias_X · Dec 03, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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I don't think I understand your question. I think that that motherboard and the processor that I have linked to above are compatable, its a socket 478 processor, and that is what the motherboard asked for.

Aside from that, should I worry about my sound card or anything?

Edit: Anyone?/Bump

Alias_X · Dec 06, 2005, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I changed my mind about the parts, mainly because the new wave is dual core processors, and SLI technology is becoming more and more popular. And how could I forget, 64bit OS's coming out.

I havnt found any parts yet, but I am looking for a Motherboard that has SLI capabilities, and an AGP slot. So far I have found one, but it was said to be bad.

Detis Zan · Dec 06, 2005, 01:00 AM // 01:00

64 Bit OS? =P Maybe I shouldn't bought that 1000 buck worth of parts yet.

Anyway don't worry about a soundcard.

Just check if the Mobo (Motherboard) has an audio input already in it.

If not then worry about one. I didn't have to worry about mine cause I check and saw that it came with sound on the mobo.

Also you don't NEED everything as soon as it comes out. SLI, what ever 64 bit OS is (didn't do homework =P) is just something that makes it stronger and better... and maybe not need until a year or so later when they worked all the kinks out of it.

Also from what I know 939 sockets are ruling the land pretty much. So it'll be hard to upgrade when you're old parts are... less efficient.

Narada · Dec 06, 2005, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by Detis Zan

64 Bit OS? =P Maybe I shouldn't bought that 1000 buck worth of parts yet.

Don't worry, your Socket 939 is a 64 bit processor.

Detis Zan · Dec 06, 2005, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Hey thanks man. =) I just figured that out as well. Yippie!

Necrotic · Dec 06, 2005, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Actually the stuff I have seen around say that the PCI-E GPUs are gonna be better than SLI....but I am waiting on that anyway.....dont have a new MB yet. And I think you could save at least $100 if you went with AMD over Intel.

I dont recommend using your old soundcard if its anywhere close to as old as your other box. Finding drivers to work with the new board may prove to be a challenge.

Dex · Dec 06, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Necrotic

Actually the stuff I have seen around say that the PCI-E GPUs are gonna be better than SLI....but I am waiting on that anyway.....dont have a new MB yet. And I think you could save at least $100 if you went with AMD over Intel.

I dont recommend using your old soundcard if its anywhere close to as old as your other box. Finding drivers to work with the new board may prove to be a challenge.

SLI video uses PCI-E. It just uses 2 PCI-E 16x slots and a special chipset that allows them to alternate rendering frames. SLI is nVidia's dual-card design. ATI's dual-card design is called Crossfire.

Use your old sound card only if it's better than the onboard audio that will likely come on your new motherboard (most mobos have built-in audio these days). Drivers should not be a problem.

I would recommend going the Athlon64 route and a motherboard that uses one of the nVidia nForce4 chipsets. If you want to do SLI in the future just make sure you get an SLI motherboard and a video card that will do SLI (like the GeForce 7800 series). It will allow you to upgrade to a 2nd video card later if you choose to.

AGP is kind of on it's way out. PCI-E 16x is pretty much the new standard for video hardware. There are new chipsets coming out that will let you do PCI-E or AGP for video, but I don't think there are any good mobos available with it yet.